Ruddle Me This! with Taylor Ruddle

43. Ramblin' About Copyright, Transparency & Corporate Greed

December 06, 2023 Taylor Ruddle Episode 43
Ruddle Me This! with Taylor Ruddle
43. Ramblin' About Copyright, Transparency & Corporate Greed
Show Notes Transcript

Hey now what's this!? Ramblin' With Ruddle is back!? In a new solo format!? You betcha, Ramblers!

I've been wanting to create a different "flavour" of the podcast for when I do these solo talking (unhinged rambling) episodes and as I talk about in this episode I was inspired by the recent The Escapist exodus to return to my roots a bit and revive the name Ramblin' With Ruddle.

In this episode Ruddle rambles about Copyright, Transparency and Corporate greed through the lens of the Escapist's recent exodus and the founding of Second Wind that followed. It's a really exciting and inspirational story, if you're into that sort of thing then definitely have a read, it was covered by the BBC!

Do you like the idea of these solo podcasts? I've been surprised by how well the downloads for some of the later solo podcasts have done which helped inspire me to come up with the idea to revive Ramblin' With Ruddle. Let me know via a DM or email if you like or hate these, I need your feedback!

This is also the first episode of the podcast 100% recorded on my new microphone, the Samson ESAQ2U! I did a bit of a comparison and the quality increase blew my mind, hope you enjoy the new production value!

The previous show Zero Punctuation can be seen Here, and Yahtzee's new show Fully Ramblomatic can be found Here. Nick Calandra's twitter can be found here.

The intro music is "Rock Your World" by Audionautix.

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Ramblin' With Ruddle: Rock Your World by Audionautix

Hello out there and welcome back to the new and a revived version of Rambling with Ruddle. I am your host, all time slow, Taylor Ruddle. If you've only been listening to me in the past kind of a couple of years, you probably have no idea what Rambling with Ruddle even was. So I'll give you a quick history lesson on that before we get into the show. It is basically the name... of the little podcast interview that I launched in 2018 when I first got back to New Zealand from Japan and I was basically just interviewing local comedians after the gigs. It was an interesting experiment to say the least. I never put it on any other podcasting platforms. It was only ever posted on like my YouTube page and I think my Facebook, like my comedian page or something like that. So I don't really think I got that many views. And even then I couldn't really be sure of the quality of the views, how long people were listening for. But weirdly enough, even though I needed that show for a year or so, I really dropped off when I started producing my own comedy gigs. I just didn't have the time to be editing because it was a video podcast as well. It was pretty basic. I just set up my iPhone. on a little tripod and I think I might have used my Yeti Blue in some of the episodes to capture the audio but this was long before I knew anything about audio editing or video editing. Basically I was going completely blind at this point so the quality of the show wasn't great and I only did it for about a year but for some reason the name Rambler with Roddall has stuck. It is a great name, I think it's a fantastic name for a show and it's to the point where people will actually still call me the Rambler. Even though I haven't done the show for longer than I did the show for so that I guess if nothing else Speaks to the quality of the name that I chose for my little my little podcast project So what I thought I would do is I would have been we'll get into it in the episode proper but I have been very much inspired to kind of go back to my roots a little bit and revive this Ramblin with a Ruddle name. I've got the new podcast cover. I'm really happy with the podcast cover I hope you like that too. Photo for that was taken by my good friend Jake, Jake Brown Media on Instagram Very very talented young man there. Sorry. No, he's Jake Brown creative on On Instagram. So you're probably thinking well, that's all well and good Taylor. I've caught up on the history But why are you using this name for this podcast here? And the main thing is I just wanted to differentiate my podcast into the different brands If you will like you will probably remember that I do They're they're rambling with rattle, which is gonna be from now on I guess to give you the rundown on the channel for the podcast going forward So the overall brand of the podcast is still gonna be rattle me this I think that's a great name as well despite how annoying it is to search for in the search engines But it's going to be the overall umbrella of the show and any of those podcast covers where you see the purple cover With the logo right on me this that is going to be the interview show going forward you would have probably also noticed from a couple of weeks ago my interview with Tracy Royce from the Quantum foundation that had a swanky new Phantom files logo and the green podcast cover So anytime you see the green or the logo of the Phantom files, it'll be all sort of a package That is going to be one of the spooky episodes. We'll call that the Phantom files for short. And then what I wanted was I wanted the opportunity to maybe on the weeks where I couldn't find a guest, I wanted to be able to do a solo podcast as those actually do perform surprisingly well in terms of my download numbers. Any of the ones that I've released over the last few kind of weeks where it's just been me talking to the microphone. have really exceeded my expectations in how much people downloaded them. So we thought, let's, we, me, talking to myself here. So I thought what I would do is I would figure out how to have certain episodes that are just for me talking and when I don't need a guest. So the main topic that we'll get into in a little bit inspired me to kind of go back to my roots. I love the name, Ramblin' with Ruddle. I think that really suits the image of a guy in his living room. talking to himself for like 30 minutes. And so I thought, let's see if I can come up with a cool cover artwork a few weeks ago. Knocked it all together. It came out really looking really good. So I thought, yeah, let's do it. And so here we are with, this is gonna be sort of flavor three of the podcast. And then I won't say too much about it now, but I'm working on another idea for something that will be another different type of show. It'll be a little bit of a different vibe, but I think you're gonna enjoy it just as much. It's still gonna be me, still gonna be the same kind of production style, same kind of me talking. It's gonna be that it's all like I'm not doing the Babish thing where he brings in other people under his channel or anything. It's still all gonna be me. It's just if you've listened to anything that I've done, you'll know how much I love colour coding and having a different brand for certain items under the same umbrella. So this is all just my unique form of madness here at play. So I hope that's cleared things up a little bit and not scared you off. Nothing's really changing. You don't have to do everything. If you subscribe to Rattle Me This, then you're gonna get them all. They're literally just gonna have a different podcast cover in the player and that should hopefully let you differentiate between what kind of episode it's gonna be of the week. So we'll get onto the main topic of what I wanted to talk about today. And I believe the topics that I picked were transparency, corporate greed, and capitalism. gonna need to check my notes actually. Sorry, no it was copyright. Those are the topics I wanted to talk about today and this is all embroiled in something that I've been following very closely over the last couple of weeks now and it is to do with the gaming magazine called The Escapist had something they had essentially a an exodus of some of their staff and that whole situation is what kind of inspired me to do this episode so I'll give you a bit of a rundown so there was a gaming magazine called The Escapist They were, I think, a literal magazine for a bit, but I think they might mainly be online journalism and videos now. And they had this, they had this content creator, I guess you'd call him, called Yahtzee Crochure. And he would do these scathing reviews of video games. And he had this very unique style of this yellow, bright yellow background with these kind of floating limb characters, they're all very basic. white and black, kind of not quite stick people but they like if you've ever played Rayman or like watch those old madness combat videos they have the floating limbs that was what the art style was and it was called Zero Punctuation and it was a very unique thing in that like he yeah so Yahtzee Kroescher is the creator behind it and he's a very fascinating guy he used to run a website called Fully Ramblamatic which you can see why I've been thinking so much about the name Rambling with Ruddle after that name But he updated this thing very, very regularly and did a lot of writing and he did articles and he did a lot of writing and he did that whole kind of, the equivalent of the open mic circuit, I guess, for a standup is just he did a lot of, he practices craft a lot. I have to assume he got his 10,000 hours in and he created these two reviews for, I think it was The Darkness and Heavenly Blade with these two PS2 games. And off the strength of those, he had pretty much the whole art style down. He had his interview, his talking style down. It's very fast with, you know, hence the name would describe zero punctuation. And his writing style is very cynical, very scathing. And he has this insane way of creating, what are they, similes or metaphors? I've never been good at them, so I don't know what they are. But, you know, it'll say this something was as crazy as a something. That's the whatever that is metaphor. Somehow Yahtzee's brain is just so good at coming up with these creepy, horrifying, but still completely summing up the metaphor that it's describing. You just have to watch them and check out a couple episodes of Zero Punctuation on The Escapist if you want to check that out. And so I stumbled into that when I was in high school, probably like 16 or 17 years old. and sort of followed it for a few years. I was much more into gaming than that I am now. So obviously that was quite a cool thing. You tune in every week. And before the days of content creators, it was an interesting phenomenon because, yeah, the thing, I think one of the things of Queen Elizabeth dying was people were suddenly hit with this realization that a constant in their life was suddenly not there anymore. And for me, I'm approaching 31 this year, pretty much the whole time I've been alive, so is the Queen. So that idea of this one figure in your life, in the background, so maybe you don't pay attention to it a lot, but then one day it's gone. That was kind of zero punctuation for a lot of us. It was just on this weekly schedule, and because it was being paid for by the Escapist magazine, he was able to do this professionally, like, what, 10 years before YouTubing was like a viable career with like AdSense and stuff like that. And I think it was just that Yeah, the escapist paid him to create these videos and upload them to the escapist's YouTube channel. And so these Zero Punctuation videos performed very well for like, I think it's 16 years or 13 years. It's over 10 years for sure that he's been making these videos, you know, in and out every week, same time every week. Like I was saying with the Queen before, that was one of the constants in our life is you kind of assume that Zero Punctuation was always going to be there. And from what I gathered, Zero punctuation was far and away the most popular thing on the Escapist channel for a long time. However, the other, um, the other, I guess, character in this story was the editor in chief. And this editor was a fella by the name of Nick Calandra. I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly. And Nick was the, uh, yeah, the editor in chief. So he kind of seemed to coordinate what programming was being put on the YouTube channels. And from what I had been reading, apparently under Nick's stewardship, if you will, the Escapist went from like the platform that everybody goes there for zero punctuation, and then they kind of try to get you to watch all these other things, but people don't really watch them. They're just kind of there. I guess I was gonna say loss leader, but it's not a loss leader at all. But apparently under Nick, they started coming up with all these other different video series, which were actually getting quite well received. Like there was this one called Cold Take by a guy called Frost. There was another one that I don't know what the original name of it was, but it is called Design Delve now. And that was under another creator. And apparently, from what I've heard, like I wasn't really I wasn't really following the escapists that clearly until I saw the news. So the news, and this is what kicked off everything, is that Nick got fired from The Escapist, and it was your typical corporate BS of setting him these unattainable goals and then punishing him for not being able to reach these goals. The goals were just ridiculous, but even though he could show them that the channel was experiencing growth, the other topic of today is the corporate greed, the idea that line must go up. as I've heard someone say kind of recently. And so yeah, because of that, they fired Nick from the Escapist. Now where this story gets really interesting is that due to this, evidently Nick was so good at what he did and so beloved to the team, pretty much the entire team walked out with him. There was an Exodus, I believe this is called, in business, which really does like... paint a picture of how good Nick must have been to work either under or alongside that the whole team did not want to continue with him. I think anybody that's in a vaguely sort of leadership role can only hope to aspire to be the kind of person where if you get fired your whole team leaves with you. Another example of that I've seen people using was the Gordon Ramsay. When he left the Aubergine restaurant. create his own restaurant you can check this out in the documentary called Gordon's Boiling Point. When he resigned apparently his whole team came with him as well so interesting case there because Gordon's known for being very shouty at his staff but um I mean I guess uh I guess even despite all of the um the harsh treatments if your whole staff is going to walk out with you when you're fired like there must be something to that like You must be doing something right to like inspire them or whatever. So I found that really interesting and then they went off to start their own company and this is one of my favorite things that happens is when, like this is where the copyright comes in and I love when this happens is when you leave, somebody leaves a company or they get fired or for whatever reason they leave the entity that they are with and they don't retain the rights to their copyrights. And then they get this beautiful opportunity to kind of start fresh. And there's this fantastic design challenge that comes into trying to create something that is familiar and people kind of know what to expect. But it's still different enough to get around those pesky copyright laws. So they created a company called Second Wind, which is an interesting title. I kind of like it. It's. As they've pointed out, a lot of people have been making breaking wind jokes about it. So I guess what are you gonna do? You've picked a name, they've picked a Phoenix as their kind of icon, which I get. Like it's a little generic. A lot of people talk about rising from the ashes like a Phoenix and I can understand that. Like, I don't know, the branding of Second Win is not my favorite, but I love the idea of what they've done with it and the fact that it's all gonna be owned by them. And so now they've got this channel that's completely theirs. They have full control of their IP. From what I remember reading, Nick had encouraged Frost. And I think the person who creates Designer Delve, Developer Delve, I'm forgetting the name, but there's another very cool games series on the channel that definitely go and check out. I've enjoyed the couple of episodes that have dropped so far. apparently Nick had encouraged those two to retain the rights to their creations off the bat. So they're actually able to just take them straight from The Escapist and drop them right onto Second Wind and they haven't, they've done like a bit of a refresh, like a rebrand, but they haven't had to change their name or like the gist of what the show is about. If you've listened to the show at all, you'll know that I'm a big fan of professional wrestling and this was something that used to happen all the time in the kind of late 90s when there was WWE and WCW. what would happen is a wrestler would get fired from one company or they would leave to go to the other company and if they didn't retain the rights to their character or their name they would have to change it slightly or just enough to get around the copyright laws and even though they were essentially the same thing like I think a big one that I remember people saying was Rhino was like R-H-I-N-O on one company and then when he went to the other company he had to change it to Rhino like R-Y-N-O Sometimes even just adding a last name like Christian when he was in WWE. He was just one name Christian, but then when he went back to a different company, he was able to get away with using Christian Cage. And I'm not quite sure what the legality of it is there, but that seemed to be fine. Something that's been happening a lot with WWE and AEW at the moment is wrestlers will, wrestlers are actually getting quite savvy at trademarking their gimmick and their name and everything. So then what happens is when they leave the WWE and go to AEW or vice versa, they can actually keep their name. And for the most part, I think they can keep their kind of gear and their look. But one thing they have to change is their, uh, their music. And so you get these funny, these funny situations where, uh, it's that same thing, the musician, I think Adam Cole is a great example. I think I could probably get away with playing, uh, a little bit of. Adam Cole's themes here just to give you an example of like what happened. So this was his theme in WWE. And then when he went to AEW, this was his theme. So as you can see, it's very similar, but it's just different enough to get around those pesky copyright laws. I keep calling them pesky copyright laws, but I should make my stance clear on that. I'm very happy that there is such a thing as copyright as like a designer and a podcaster. And that was actually something that made me so happy to start to work alongside Plains FM and Christchurch. They're a community access radio station. If you're listening along to this, you've probably heard me mention them before. You might have even listened to my show on Plains FM at 11 o'clock on Fridays, 96.9 Christchurch radio. I assume maybe it reaches a little bit further than Christchurch, I'm not quite sure how far it goes. But we were kind of chatting as I was chatting to Pia from Plains, if you're listening Pia, hello. Thank you for all the help you've given me. I was chatting to Pia and we were just talking about the idea of maybe doing a radio show there. And initially I was thinking about this idea of like, oh, I'm going to have to like, going to have to think of like a new name. I've used Ramblin with Ruddle. I've used Ruddle Me This and like those are the only two names for a podcast that I've ever actually really liked. I've never, never quite found one that like, you know, aside from those two, I've never been able to find another one that I really, really liked for my podcast name. Craig Westenberg suggested. huddle of Rudd, which was a good name, but not exactly the vibe I think I want for my weekly podcast. But since it's community access radio, that was one of the things that became clear to me was that actually I could just take the brand that I've been working on, Ruddle Me This, or in this case, Ramblin' with Ruddle, and I could just play it straight on the planes FM radio station. So that was like, like I love the process of having to come up with something new but familiar. but I had so much on my plate at the time I was kind of talking to planes about doing something that I just thought like, oh, I don't have it in me to do another rebrand. And I was completely out of ideas. And I'm only sort of just now quite happy with the cover artwork for Ruddle Me This. I think if you go back and listen to some of the older episodes, it was a little bit of an early onset weirdness as I kind of found the style of the front. I'm very happy with how it looks now. The font that I'm using is Marvin. fantastic font I highly recommend you check it out. That was like the big thing that changed like I thought okay I've found like the identity of the of the brand behind the show when I found that font so I'm very happy that I found it. I'm gonna get a little bit off topic here but uh the main thing I was talking about was the uh the Escapist turned it well I'm not turning into second wind coming out of the Escapist and so over the last couple of weeks I've been really excitedly watching to see how Yahtzee Kroeshaw has rebranded Zero Punctuation into his new show, which he's gone back to his roots once again. Big influence to inspiring me to go back to my roots and revive Ramblin' with Ruddle. And so he's calling the show, he's got two shows, he's got Fully Ramblimatic and then he's got Semi Ramblimatic. So it took me a second to think of what those were for a second. As the Escapist, they had the copyright. of Zero Punctuation because actually interestingly enough 16 or whenever it was 16 years ago when he first released those two reviews that got him noticed by the Escapist those were called Fully Ramblimatic reviews so he's taken this weird 16 year side quest to do Zero Punctuation but now he's gone back to his roots it's all owned by him obviously and he's back to running a show called Fully Ramblimatic. And the way he is um... I should just leave a link to it in the show notes to go and check out an episode of Zero Punctuation and then check out an episode of Fully Ramblimatic because as you will tell it's very similar. He is still using the same style of characters although I think the initial character that he was representing him in Zero Punctuation was a little character in a fedora or a trilby and it was drawn in a very distinctive way and I believe that the Zero Punctuation, sorry no, the escapist. had copyright of that particular little logo character. There was also something called the Imp, which was a... I think it was from the darkness. It was meant to be... it was like the embodiment of one of the minions in the game, but it sort of stuck around as well and it kind of just became one of the other characters in Zero Punctuation. And I think the Escapist retains copyright to that as well. So he had to come up with a kind of a new art style and he's done away with the yellow backgrounds and he's now using basically every color except for yellow. And I think the way he does it now is that the background color changes depending on what aspect of the game he's talking about. So the start, it starts off as red. Then when he's talking about like the story, it's kind of a beige background. And when he's talking about like gameplay, it turns blue. When he's talking about something else, maybe mechanics or something, it turns green. But for the most part, the overall style of it is still very much the zero punctuation that you know and love. So I'm very much looking forward to following it and seeing where it evolves going forward because the interesting thing about Zero Punctuation is from that first couple of reviews the whole style was basically there. And then I suspect it was the case of if it ain't broke don't fix it. So they kind of just continued on. He did update little bits and pieces like he used to do a blue screen every now and then certain times the background would change to blue. But for the most part that kind of phased out as well as some other bits and bobs that all kind of phased out as well over the years, but it did evolve just not, it wasn't a huge change. I think the quality just kind of went up as technology got better and you know, the resolution got higher I guess. But I suspect a lot of the style staying the same. Can you tell? It took me a few tries to get that sentence done. You could tell that the style didn't change much. Maybe. was due to the fact that it was an established brand. So I'm really looking forward to watching the evolution of these new fully Ramblimatic episodes as, you know, he's gonna discover new bits and pieces, new filmmaking, new animation techniques. So I'm really looking forward to following this. And if you're a kind of branding geek like me, I recommend you check it out as well. Like I mentioned before, the other thing that Yahtzee is doing is called Semiramblimatic. and what that is going to be is, from what I could tell, I never really followed the supplementary stuff that they were putting out on The Escapist, but from what I have read, they used to have him do a couple of other projects throughout the week in order to, I guess, capitalize on the fact that most people were going to The Escapist to see Yahtzee's content. So he would do something called extra punctuation, which seemed to be like an animated video that was more of a critique on the games industry, I think, than individual games. but it would have footage of video games being shown in it, whereas the zero punctuation reviews were just pictures or cartoons of bits and bobs representing the game. And this leads quite nicely into me wanting to talk a little bit about transparency, because weirdly enough, not long before this whole thing where Nick, the editor, got fired happened, I just kind of by chance was Googling Zero punctuation or if I forget exactly why I was on the escapists page, but I noticed that there was a blog post from From Nick the editor and I might actually read that to you now because that could be quite a good example Okay, here we go. I've got it up in front of me and it says hey folks as you may have already heard We're doing something new with Yahtzee starting this week We've decided to end the post zero punctuation streams as that's Yahtzee was personally bored with them and who wants to watch him play Through two hours of another Assassin's Creed game So we decided to reformat PostZP as a new livestream series and edited video series called Yahtzee Unscripted. Goes on to explain the format of the show, and then it says we're really excited about making this switch as it will give Yahtzee a lot more time to check out a bunch of games he doesn't have time for typically because of how Zero Punctuation works week to week. It's probably going to take a few episodes to get the format down, so feel free to give us feedback to help us improve once we get the pilot out. And then it said thanks, Nick Calandra, editor in chief. And when I read that initially, I was like, I was shocked because it was so candid and it was so honest and this is a whole thing that I seem to be at odds with people over a lot of the time is the idea of being honest with your audience. Like a quick example of that off the bat would be the whole idea of like, you know, stand-up promoters writing. Oh, this show always books out. So booking quick or writing, oh, these tickets are selling fast. And it's, you know, like a third of them have sold or something. It's like that kind of thing. He used to raise the butt heads with people a lot over doing that sort of thing when promoting shows. Cause it just feels dishonest to me. And like, I don't know. I see both sides of the coin. I understand that like you have to, you have to, um, you have to convince people somehow, right? And that's a proven sales tactic is the idea of. uh, false urgency with a call to action. Like I understand that the, you know, people do this because it works. And at the end of the day, you want, you know, if you're promoting shows, you need to put people in those seats in order for the show to happen. Otherwise you won't have a show, but it's always just been like a sticking point with me. And another, like if you're a listener of mine, you'll know how upfront I am about numbers and how the shows are going and how my year went. I do those yearly State of the Ramble reviews, which a lot of people have asked me why I bothered doing those, but I'll just chuck this in here as a cheeky little extra. Because I was doing those self-reflection things, it was one of the reasons that David Correos asked me to come on him with Tor, because come on Tor with him, excuse me, I'm clearly running out of steam. It was one of the reasons David Correos asked me to come on Tor with him is because he saw that I was very introspective and he said to me something to the effect of, well that means you're not going to get offended if I give you any feedback. So it does pay to be introspective, like it is confronting. It is, when I was looking back at the numbers for how my friend show went, I was a little bit disheartened to remember that I only had something like 12 audience members on night one and 17 on night number two, but like, this is a tough industry stand up. You got to, you got to get used to looking in the mirror if you want to. get anywhere with it, right? You can't just pretend that everything's going great when it's, you know, there's room for improvement. And so that's why I think I'm very honest with, um, with my, you know, quote unquote, my audience. I don't know if I have an audience. I seem to have about 30 people that regularly listen to this podcast. So if you're one of them, hello, I appreciate you. Thank you so much for helping me, uh, live out the dream. And, uh, yeah, just, I feel like I do the same thing. I post about. You know, another thing that gets me is when comedians cancel a gig, they always put a due to unforeseen circumstances and it's like, wow, the unforeseen circumstance you're thinking of is that you didn't sell enough tickets. And don't get me wrong, I've canceled so many shows due to lack of ticket sales. I am no stranger to canceling a show due to lack of ticket sales. But I mean, I'm always honest on the Facebook page when I cancel it, I'll write, because of low sales, we had to cancel the show. I just feel like you're treating your audience kind of like idiots when you try to gloss it under the rug and under the unforeseen circumstance. Like, you know, like, what, are you picturing like something from the lighting rig fell or the hurricane came through? Like, I don't know, I just don't, it feels phony to me. I don't like it. And the thing that... Nick and Yahtzee have been talking about is this idea of transparency and how corporations do not want transparency. They want to be able to drop, I mean you've heard the phrase of corporate speak, which is the idea of saying something without actually saying anything. I guess it's the, you know, politician speak as well could be kind of the same kind of the same ballpark there. And I understand why corporations do it. I think especially in America with how litigious everybody is, maybe they just don't wanna open themselves up to being taken to court for stuff. And I have wondered myself many a time if my constant transparency and being upfront about stuff is gonna one day come back to bite me in the ass. I'm pretty careful, like I don't post number amounts. I love to do a podcast where I just talked about all the number, like how much money I made as a self-employed standup. but I feel like that's just inviting myself to get audited by the IRD in the following year. And while I'm not doing anything dodgy, I'm just never 100% confident that I've done anything correctly that involves like numbers or calculations and stuff. Thankfully, due to Henry, the app, most of that, I have so much less stress. filing my taxes every year now because I trust that their system like knows you know it's all good but uh yeah that's the mainly the reason why I don't ever list like actual number amounts in terms of money like that the episode about me talking about when I went full-time as a comic I was very careful not to use any dollar amounts uh just for that reason that I don't want to I don't want to put anything in writing that I may have misspoke or remembered wrong or what have you But other than that, I feel like I'm very honest. Like when we cancel a regular show due to lack of attendance, we always say that it's due to lack of attendance or lack of ticket sales, or that we feel like we're oversaturating the market, et cetera, et cetera. Like there are ways to do corporate speak. You know, you don't have to just be like, well, you guys wasn't interested in the comedy, so we's canning it. Like, you know, you can still say like, lack of interest. lack of sales. It still sounds nice but you're still being honest with them rather than just the generic unforeseen circumstances because if these producers are anything like me, lack of ticket sales is not unforeseen. They have been, well I tend to look at the tickets sold every single night and that just hangs over me. One of these days if I ever get successful enough I definitely want to hire someone that's like a personal assistant and their job is just to make They handle all my ticket sales and by that I mean they know how many sales have been sold for each show and they don't tell me the number amount because knowing the number amount drives me insane just having it in my head. All they tell me is the show going to be cancelled or not and like if it is, fine. I don't need to know how many tickets we sold, I just need to know that we didn't sell enough to make the show happen. And if it is going ahead, it's fine. I also don't need to know that we've only sold like half the tickets and, you know, I just, knowledge is a curse. No, to know is pain is basically how I think about it. And I just don't like knowing that number in my head. Like if we have 50 tickets to sell and we sold 19 or whatever, I don't need to know that we still had another 41, 31, excuse me, 39. God, I'm running out of steam. I'm running out of steam. I actually didn't really get to the corporate greed aspect much, but now that I see we're coming up on 40 minutes, I think I'm going to call the first episode there. That's great because I was really concerned that I wasn't going to be able to ramble on for 40 minutes to fill in a show. So I'm going to end the show there. I hope you've enjoyed it. Let me know, send me a DM to my Facebook account or my Instagram account, send me an email or something. However you can get in touch with me and let me know. Is this kind of show something you want to see more of? Do you enjoy the episodes that's just me talking kind of unfiltered to myself essentially? I've been releasing a ton of bonus episodes in the next, you know, the last few weeks but that's mainly just a Christmas thing. Give you something extra to listen to over the holiday season as well as to help me figure out the flow of how I'm going to release these things. I'm going to go back to one episode a week in the new year. I've got about three episodes of my backlog left which once... the new year is done. I'm going to start off with a Q&A episode where I answer some questions that have been submitted by friends and colleagues. If you've got a question you want me to answer, send it to me via DM to my Instagram or my Facebook page and I'll add it to the list of questions that I answer. Or you can visit TaylorRuddle.com slash questions to leave your question at the Google form. So thanks for listening, let me know what you think of the format, let me know if you like it, let me know if you hate it I just kind of want to know what your thoughts are on it and whether to do more of them or not As always follow me on all the social medias at Taylor Ruddle Comedy Haven't really thought of an outro for Rambling with Ruddle just yet, so we're just gonna say thank you so much for listening I look forward to rambling at you sometime in the future. Take it easy.

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