In this episode I'm joined by Georgia West Cahill, a good chum of mine from the Christchurch comedy scene to teach me all about the ins and outs and ups and downs of the dog-eat-dog world of online doll collecting. We meander through a bit of 90s nostalgia as well as talking about our cats, and the episode gets surprisingly deep at the end as we talk about what do toys / dolls / etc mean to us, as well as the day we realized that they weren't as fun to play with any more.
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Ruddle me this. Ruddle me that. Hit me in the head. With the baseball bat. What are we ruddlin'? Is it a fish? No clue. I'm just muddlin'. Rattle me this. that a lovely little ditty there. Hello everyone welcome back to another episode of Rattle Me This I am as always your host Taylor Ruddle aka Brett the Hitman heart disease. I am delighted to have you back for another week to check out the podcast this week we are going to be interviewing a pretty good friend of mine and fellow comedian that is Georgia West Cahill. I've known Georgia for a couple of years we bonded over our shared of passion for the 90s and the pop culture and toys and everything like that came with the 90s. She's also a massive fan of The Simpsons which holds a very near and dear place in my heart and is a big influence on me with my comedy writing so that was kind of the two. Well actually you know there's a third one she's also massively into Cats which if you've ever listened to this you'll know I'm a big fan. So today Georgia came onto the show to tell me about the cutthroat dog eat dog world of doll collecting. We go on a little stroll down memory lane talking about what it was like growing up in the 90s, trying to collect action figures and toys with our sort of limited supply of them available here in New Zealand. What some of the local haunts were and the best places to get action figures and toys growing up in the 90s. especially pre-internet. And then she kind of educates me on what it's like being a doll collector in the modern day and age and what kind of environment it is navigating the online world of doll collecting. One other quick thing to get into before the interview starts, as I suppose I should announce this here, is I recently won an award in the 2023 New Zealand Comedy Guild Awards, which was pretty cool. I, myself and this podcast were actually nominated. I was nominated for the breakout comedian of the South Island and this podcast was nominated for best online production. And in the end, I was indeed voted the 2023 breakout comedian of the South Island, which is a pretty cool achievement. I was nominated for it two years ago, did not win, came up short in that one, then was not nominated the following year. and then nominated and won it this year. So I guess to be honest, I think we all know why I was in the running for that. So a big shout out to David Kouraios for letting me cling onto those coat tails. And that's basically the main reason I think I was nominated for it. So I do appreciate David taking me along on that tour. The podcast came up short and unfortunately I was, I lost out to the worst idea of all time with Guy Montgomery and Tim Batt, so I don't feel too ashamed to have lost to that podcast as they mentioned it was their 10th year podcasting and I think I've been doing this one for about eight months, something along those lines. So we'll get them next year I hope, we'll see how it goes. and I'm just really looking forward to what 2024 is going to bring. I've got a few irons in the fire, a couple of quite exciting projects lined up. I won't say too much about them just in case they don't pan out, as that could often be the case with this sort of freelance entertainment world. But one thing I can fairly confidently say is we are going to be doing some charity work for the Cancer Society. I've had a couple of meetings with them and we've got some cool shows lined up. that I think are going to be sort of a, I don't know how to word it, like they're going to be soul fulfilling, is that a word? I think they're going to be very, they're going to be shows for a very good cause and I'm looking forward to being able to announce them. And then the other one, let's just say if you are somebody who identifies as being what I understand the kids refer to as neuro spicy, I hope I'm using that term correctly. I've got a project in the works that will hopefully benefit you. So as always, keep an eye on the Can Do Comedy Facebook page. That is where all of our gig and show announcements go. So I do apologize for our waffling on a bit. A little bit has happened in the old daily life, but let's get down to the interview. So everybody, please welcome to the show, my friend and yours, Georgia West Cahill. Georgia welcome to the podcast. Hello thank you for having me Taylor this is exciting. It's been a while we've had this plan sort of in the making for a while so we finally got to happen. Yeah it's been in the works it's been in production hell but here we are. Exactly so no delighted to have you along. We what are we going to be talking about in today's interview? Well I thought my arrival me this will be about Yeah, no, that sounds perfect. The one thing I wanted to get in first is we've got to talk about our cats a little bit, because... Oh, crucial. We have to. Yeah. Very rarely do I get to talk about cats. So what is your cat's name? Her name is Princess. And we tend to refer to her as Prin for short, don't we? Yeah, Prinny, Prinathy, Prin, Primble Machine, Prinistry of Education. What else we got? Prunilla the Hun. Prunilla, Queen of the Desert. Yeah. So many names. That's fantastic. And she, Harold's print. She's about nine. She's nine years old. Yeah. Fantastic. A seasoned creature. Wise to the ways of the world. Yeah. She's pretty hard boiled, you know. She loves human food as well. Yeah. No, she sounds like it. Yeah. No, she loves her food. She's a big She's actually been on a diet. That's right. How was Brynn's diet going? She's done well. Actually, no, I say that, but she snuck into the treat packet the other day and just went ham. She was themed in. She'd eaten it all, all the treats in the packet, and the packet was still on the floor. And she was kind of like lying on it. meowing at me and I was like princess you ate them all stop being silly and I had to go to work so I left for the day and then I came back about like I don't know eight hours later and she was still here on the treat day. So she's not she's not super happy about being on a diet? It's not thrilled but I've explained to her many times yeah I've explained to her many times that it's for her and good it's for her health. That's true. Sometimes you've got to show tough love to pets. Yeah. So then my cat is Henry. He is a orange cat, which anyone that has a cat or knows cats will know what kind of shenanigans he gets up to. He spends a lot of time on the roof of the house. He was Princess Street cat. No, she's an indoor cat. She's an indoor cat. Henry was a street boy when we sort of like adopted him or whatever. And I think. when animals have lived on the streets, they tend to be like super food motivated. So yeah, he loves he's much like print. But he's really gotten quite skinny in his old age. So I don't know what my parents have done, but he's doing really well. We got a ton of nicknames. We call them obviously Henry, Hen, Humph, Humphrey, Hoss, Ears, Hungry Tom and. That might be all that I can remember. I don't have as- I think hoss is my favorite. Hoss is great. It's one of my favorite words in the whole English language. So what I would do is I'll post a picture of both of our cats and the listeners can check it out on the show notes. And that satisfies the clause in my contract of being allowed to talk about my cat at least once per season in the show. Yep, yep. If there's any listeners that have cats as well, send a photo to my Facebook page, I guess. And we might do like a cat hoss of the week. Cat of the week. Okay, so now that we've got the form the formalities out of the way, we've ticked that box on the health and safety form. Let's get into the doll collecting. So what is your, I suppose your history with doll collecting? What is it in relation to your life? I think it started at a very, very young age. I love playing with dolls as a child. the first ever doll I got. I don't know, I think I already had hand made down bodies at this point, but I got a Bratz doll. If there any Bratz fans listening, it was the step and out Chloe. If you know the one, she's got the red like silk candy top and the flair jeans. She was a very cool doll. Bratz, they're sort of unique. They had quite big heads, didn't they? Yeah. I very vaguely remember those. They were very controversial when they first came out. What were they controversial for? Well, first of all, they were just very, very different than the standard fashion girl, which was, you know, your Barbie and your Barbie coins. But yeah, brats, they were very thin. They had no noses. They had huge lips, big feet. You could actually snap off their feet. That's how you change their shoes. They came with a change of feet. And yet a lot of parents are like, well, these are a bit too sexy for little girls. These are a bit inappropriate. Because they were very adult, weren't they? They had like cell phones. They would go to like the club. But yeah, I think they were meant to appeal to more of the tween, like eight to 12 demographic, which was like a gap in the market at the time. Whereas Barbie was more for like younger, young little girls. That sounds about right. Yeah. The young, I guess. we could get into a little bit of the history of Barbie. Was Barbie the first ever doll? Cause that was what the movie seems to imply. No, this is actually really interesting. Barbie was not the first fashion doll. She was most certainly the first like doll, fashion doll to make fashion dolls popular. But there were, there were quite a few in the 1940s, in the 1950s, I think there were like the Madame Alexander ones. And I can't remember the exact names. There were other like, adult bodied fashion dolls. But yeah, Barbie was really the first one that kind of changed the game. She kind of changed the game. But yeah. That's right. The other one that I'm sort of vaguely familiar with was Polly Pocket. Is that a collector one or is that something else? That's a kind of slightly different line, isn't it? It kind of changed over the years. I think when Polly Pocket first came out, she was kind of meant to be like, because at the time, like, miniatures were really popular. This is the early 90s. Miniatures were really popular. We had Lilis Hatchup, Puff in My Pocket, those kind of collectible sort of that kind of thing. I think she was meant to be that. Whereas in the 2000s those collectible mini dolls became less fashionable. So I guess yeah they wanted to make her more of like an actual doll that you could dress up but also still kind of small and collectible and whatever she was meant to be at the start. Yeah. The whole idea of doll collecting, it sounds weird, but my only context for this is those Malibu Stacey's from The Simpsons. So they have like, I sort of know this with Barbie, they have like scientist Barbie and oil rig worker Barbie or whatever her professions are. Is that what people tend to collect? Is they'll do like a series of Barbies where each one has like a new gimmick and then like once they've I'm assuming once they finish that line, certain Barbies get retired and they become collectors items. Is that kind of how it works? Pretty much. Pretty much. That's how it works. So yeah, there would be a doll that comes out of like, for example, one year and that would be like on the shelves on the market for like a couple years and then they'll discontinue that line. Sometimes Mattel release Loomis head addition dolls for collectors and they're usually, you know, like point, they're a bit higher quality. Yeah, absolutely. But yeah, pretty much. The, I've always found that a bit interesting looking at like American collecting action figures versus collecting here, because we, I imagine probably get like the dregs of the market shipped over to New Zealand. Absolutely. I think that I would have a much bigger collection if I lived in America. all of the best dolls, the dolls that I want, like if I wanted to get them I'll have to pay like $80 for international shipping and it's just, it's just, it's unaffordable. So my dream is to go to America just to get dolls, just to go to like flea markets and that would be cool. I don't know, like I feel like the shops and antique shops and like get them. I feel so bad for my parents, when you know when you're a child and you know this is the thing that we've got a lot of American, We're mostly New Zealand listeners, but we do have some American listeners. So one thing the American listeners might not quite understand is like how far New Zealand is from the rest of the world. So quite often we would still get the big toys here, but you would definitely not have as much of a range of obviously what they would get in the States. And I guess when you're a child, you don't really understand, you know, the economics of like shipping and things like that. So you don't understand why. we don't have like the specific whatever it is that you want from this, right? Like, you know, for me, it would be Pokemon figurines. That was my big collecting thing when I was a child. And yeah, I just feel bad for all the times I must've badgered my parents to get like, you know, why don't they have this one? But you know, it's completely out of their hands and, and yeah. Yeah. That's really interesting. You bring that up because like, um, cause yeah, I was really into Bratz as a kid. Um, and I grew up on the west side of the world. Coast, which is a very small area. And I think a lot of that comes down to like, is this going to sell in New Zealand? No, here's the thing. With the Brits, they were four main quill characters and each of them were a different like, like ethnic background. So you had Chloe, who was the white one. You had Jade, who was the Asian one. You had Yasmin, who was the Latin one. and then Sasha who was the African American one. So at the Grey Mouth warehouse, which is pretty much the only place you can get toys in the West Coast, they never had Sasha's. They never sold Sasha's at this mostly white West Coast. I find that really interesting, but I always felt like my collection wasn't complete because of that, because I never had a Sasha. Oh, that is devastating, yeah. That was devastating. I think for the retailers that you tend to get stuff in New Zealand. the warehouse was the big one. Cause I remember getting, you know, Pokemon, WWE, whatever action figures we had, that was like always pretty much, as soon as we'd walk into the warehouse with my parents, my brother and I would be like, can we go look at the toys? And then we'd just run off to the toy house. There was no, I don't think I can ever top that kind of high when you're a kid and your parents take you to the warehouse. I'm never gonna be able to recreate that feeling. I still sometimes, oh go ahead. Yeah, sometimes I go to the warehouse and I go down the pink aisle and it's just, you try it, but it's not the same. It's not the same. I definitely do that. Not the pink aisle, I'll go down the, you know, whatever it is, the transformers and all that kind of stuff. And I used to do jokes on stage about how I looked like. just this kind of fine line between like, he might be buying them for himself, but he might also have like a niece or a nephew or something like that. Whenever I go like to the warehouse and in all whatever store where that has like girls toys and dolls or like op shops, I always have to plan in my head that I'm a collector speech. Like if any parents are nearby and they look at me judgingly, I'm like, oh no, I'm a collector. I'm an adult collector. I collect girls. It's okay. It's not weird at all. Not weird at all. That's funny how much of... And then they're probably not even thinking about it at all, are they? Yeah, probably not. You could get like a business card or something like that you just push into their hands. It's like, you know, all the frequently asked questions about it. FAQs. They're like, hey, what are you doing here? Here's my number if you want to chat some more. I'll hook you up with some limited edition Sasha Bratz dolls. Did you overcorrect and purchase more Sasha's when you got older to kind of scratch that itch at all? No, I think I kind of, yeah, I'm not really into Bratz these days. I kind of appreciate them, like from a nostalgic point of view. But no, I think I mostly love Barbies, specifically Barbies from the 80s and 90s. I think that's my niche. That's my niche. Were there any other lines of dolls? There was something called like OMG or something that I remember saying. They were modern though, I think. Yeah, I find those ones really interesting. So those came out like, I think. early 2010s, mid 2010s, I think they were meant to, yeah, they're made by MGA, who was the same company who made Bratz. And I think they were kind of, they had retired Bratz by this point. And I kind of wanted something similar that would appeal to the new generation. But yeah, I find those girls really interesting, like that, how they sort of reflect to modern fashion. I mean, that's what fashion girls have really done, but not just in terms of fashion, they reflect like, you know, ideal body type of the time because they're you know very curvy dolls um and they have like big lips and the big anime eyes and the omg ones yeah the omg ones interesting i always felt like um that do you remember that meme of steve bichimi and he's like how do you do fellow children yeah i feel like the omg it felt like this yeah no that's what it is you like you look at them and it's like yeah you look at them and it's like um with the fact that they're called like which stands for like something millennial girls. I don't know what that O stands for. They're meant to be millennials. These girls are 35 years old. They've got a job and a mortgage. They've got their Harry Potter house tattooed on their arm. I guess, would you consider yourself a millennial? No, I'm kind of a net in between. I was born in 97, so I'm kind of like what they call a zillennial. Zillennial. Which is a zoomer and yeah so that's a cross between a zoomer and a millennial. Yeah because generally if I need some information on like the zeitgeist you're one of my first ports of call to knowing like just anything about young culture um yeah but I'm not even really that much older than you so that's kind of concerning but um a zillennial yeah because like the like you were saying with the reflecting the culture and the dolls is quite interesting. Are there some trends you've noticed from the Barbies that your niche of Barbies that you don't see in fashion or anything like that today? Oh, I've got to think about that. There was a big controversy about Barbies body type not being realistic or something at some point. This is me having vague memories of that. Yeah. Oh, that's a big thing. Like, Mattel have drastically changed Barbie. I think back in the 80s and 90s, there was a focus on like the... fantasy and the glamour aspect. I don't think they kind of wanted her to be this kind of like unrealist. They didn't want her to be an unrealist at the figure but... Well Barbie was aspirational wasn't she? She was aspirational. I'm not saying that you know... She could be like an astronaut and a scientist and a princess and all these kind of... Yeah she could be anything. That's the whole thing. I'm not saying that you know like having like that kind of body type was the aspiration. But I think definitely now, Mattel want to make them more grounded. They want to make them more realistic because that's basically what the parents wanted her to be. Mattel pretty much listened to all that feedback. We're like, OK, we hear you. We'll go, let's make our Barbies different body types. But my problem with that is that they're just they're a bit too grounded. Oh, really? They're a bit too grounded. They're a bit too realistic. I would really love it if. you know, they kept the diverse body types and the skin tones and what have you, but still made them really fun and really exciting. I did. Yeah. That's an interesting way to look at it. The, um, the one I was going to say before as well with Barbie having all these different, I guess they kind of answered this, the movie, but would you say that Barbie was almost the first multiverse, one of the first multiverse characters? Pretty much, yeah, pretty much. The Barbieverse. Cause I never quite, that's one thing that really confused me about the movie is that the characters are all called Barbie, but they all have like their job is kind of like he says their given name and then Barbie is the family name. I'm not really too sure. And but they are all different, actually different characters or whatever in the Barbie movie. But I wonder if like, when I was a child, I always pictured all these different versions of Barbie were kind of like, it was like the same Barbie and she could just do everything. That was kind of my impression of the lore, if you will. Yeah, that's interesting. That's interesting. Well, I think it kind of definitely, like, yeah, it was basically a Barbie multiverse. And that's kind of, I think how I saw it as a kid with my dolls, they were just like, not the, even though I had multiple Barbies or multiple dolls that were the same, like they were still individuals, even though it was, Barbie if that makes sense? Yeah absolutely. What I quite found quite funny about the movie was the weird Barbie and that idea that you'd see dolls that would have like obviously like there was an attempted haircut on this one or like they just have like some battle scars and stuff like that from when the dog... I had a weird Barbie because as I said earlier I mostly had brats but one of the one Barbies I had she was my weird Barbie my brother had like broken off broke her broke both her arms. I was like, well, she's, can I swear? That's like the, the kid from Toy Story said, or whatever he was called, the toy mutilator. Yeah. She was, she was pretty much screwed. She was, she was damaged good. So it was like, she's a weird girl. I put nail polish on her face and like cut her hair and like do all that. And like in the sort of fantasy worlds I'll create with these dolls, like the Bratz, they were like the cool popular girls. And then- weird my weird Barbie was the one who was getting bullied in school and she was the one getting exploded and picked on. Which is funny because that was me in school, I was the weird Barbie and I was kind of yeah projecting my problems onto these girls. Yeah that's quite a good way to put it. I think it's that's the one thing that I had this conversation with someone fairly recently in real life. I still very distinctly remember the day that um toys or action figures weren't really fun for me anymore. Yeah, I remember that day for me too. Yeah. Well, take us back to your... Well, I remember it was actually, I must've been about 12 and I went to the warehouse with my mom, my brothers, and you know, she let us pick something out and she said, you said like, oh, George, do you still want a doll? Like, you know, you could maybe get like, I don't know, earphones or something, I don't know. I was like, no, I still want a doll because I saw this doll here, doll there that I really like. I was like, no, she's really pretty. I really want her. So my mum got me that and I took her home and like, I was really excited unboxing her and I was really excited to play with her. But then I was holding her and I was like, this isn't fun for me anymore. Like, what? It just hits you, eh? It just honestly hit me. It was quite melancholic because I was like, wow, this is actually, you know... things have changed. This is the end of an era. And I think for me, I think that was the transition between like child playing with dolls and you know, now you're an adult collector at 12 years old. Yeah, yeah. Well, I wasn't, you know, collecting them, but I think that was kind of the start of it. I realized that. Yeah. I just kind of liked having them rather than playing with them. I think, yeah. I had um... a very similar experience. I used to play on a trampoline out in my sort of parents' front yard. It was all little Dragon Ball Z figures and everything like that. And I remember getting all set up to play, messing around a bit. And I just remember thinking to myself like, what am I doing? This is like, what is this? But it's like, I feel like it was like a similar, I was slightly younger because I moved to the city when I was 11. So I must have been eight or nine or something like that. Yeah. But the whole idea of us projecting whole stories and stuff like that onto our toys when you're children is something that's infinitely fascinating. And then the fact that it goes away is, I'm kind of like, what changes in our brain that we're just like, oh, is it something, because you were talking about how you would project the problems you're going through at school onto the weird Barbie. Yeah. I wonder is that something that children do in order to kind of make sense of the world or to cope with what's going on? I think so. As they play it out with their toys. It's really interesting. Yeah. I wish I knew a kind of child psychologist. I could find out some more about that. But did you have, because like, I think as well, we, like, I think this is what was so interesting about Toy Story, the movies is like, Andy's toys were all just. random, like they weren't from the same set. They weren't all like, you know, like you would imagine that they were all produced by different toy companies, right? Because you had the dog, the slinky dog, the dinosaur, Woody and Buzz were like different companies. And you just have this kind of hodgepodge gang of things when you're a child, but like they're all kind of like... they all kind of inhabit the same universe in your childhood mind. Yeah, I love that so much. I wrote a joke about this in my standup, but basically, yeah, you'd come out with this really like, this like universe, like this interspecies universe and like, yeah, you'd have a Barbie, you'd maybe have a couple of male dolls, some like, maybe an old Spice Girl. I remember also like, I used to play with pens. One year, I think for Chris, pens, yeah, one year. Christmas my auntie got me these like, they're like these bendy pens that has some like jelly stuff inside and for some reason I added those to my doll universe and I'd play with them like they were dolls and I came up with like a backstory and they were kind of part of the doll circle even though they weren't dolls. Do the pens have personality, like were the pens sentient in this universe? Yeah no they were sentient. There were, there were colors. There was a yellow one. There was an orange one. There was a pink one. There was a green one. I think the pink one was a really girly one. I think the green one was the one that got bullied. And I think there was always one of the one in the universe. I love how that's the personality. Green gets bullied a lot. Yeah. I think, um, yeah, I'd even like, used to like do a similar thing with my dolls or create stories, but not even with like toys. I used to like go outside and pick. flowers and those were like characters in like a fairy tale universe. Yeah, yeah, definitely. The, what are they called? Those like Pixar movies called Inside Out or something. Is that what they're called about all the feelings? I wonder if that's almost like you're kind of externally doing that. You're putting all of your different aspects onto these individual little... Yeah, yeah. not what's the word I think not hominid homunculus was the word I was thinking but I don't think homunculus is the right word either. It's something else we don't need to go on to that if you know you know. Yeah exactly so then we got real deep in childhood there the collecting aspect of things like what does that look like now when you're trying to trade these are you trying to collect these old Barbies, do you have to go on the depths of the internet? Is it eBay? What's, how does one go about kind of acquiring them? Yeah, I used to, I get them from various sources. If I ever see like a 90s or 80s Barbie from an auction, even if it's in rough condition, I'll get it because I'm like, well, this is still like, this is still neat to have. When I had a bit more disposable income, I used to buy them from eBay, like new unbox ones. which is a really exciting time and I love it so much. I love doing that. Not so much affordable now, but that's something I used to do. I mostly do it through trade me now. Yeah, like every day I have like Barbie as like a safe search for my trade me. So like every day I sort of like check, okay, are there any 90s Barbies for sale that are in good condition and that are for the price? Let's see, let's see. That's mostly how I apply them. Are they a bit like stock prices and that certain Barbies will go up and down depending on the market? Yeah. What's a hot stock at the moment in the Barbie market? Definitely. Well, what's for a while there, the Barbie movie dolls? They were already quite expensive to buy firsthand, but I would see people reselling them on TradeMe for over $100 and it's like, yes. So these are new ones that are... based off the characters in the movie? Yeah, yeah. And they're already up to, what are Barbie Dolls retail at like new these days? It probably depends. You have ones that I think they're on the more affordable side. I think they may be around like 20 to $40 or is like more, they're very expensive these days to get like a nice quality Barbie that comes with a lot of accessories. That's around like between like 60 to like $85. Wow, that's really pricey. So they're very, they're very. Like, yeah, that's one thing that shocks me these days are that new dolls are very expensive. Yeah. I remember getting, we were talking about the AMP show, just speaking of like the price of things going crazy. AMP show, if you're a New Zealand listener, you'll probably know what this is if you're an American listener or overseas. What does AMP say if it's like agriculture and something? And it's basically like. It's like, I guess it's the closest thing in New Zealand you'd have to at county fair in the States. Would that be fair to say? Yeah. When like we were kids, it would have been a gold coin to get in, which was about $2. And now the price just went up to like $30, $40 to get into it. $35. It's crazy. It's really short up, hasn't it? Yeah. Especially since I only want to go for the petting zoo and like maybe some, some MP show for, I'm still gonna pay it, cause I still want the experience. Well, that's the thing is if people are willing to pay it, then the price isn't wrong. Is it? The other thing I was going to say, this is a big good podcast for this anecdote. And I imagine you'll understand it. But my, when we were, when we were small children, my brother and I, our big thing was the little like sort of three, four inch tall Pokemon figurines. Yeah. And the, um, I don't remember how much they costed, but, um, you could buy them in packets of two and packets of three. and they were shooting a commercial in my hometown. It was something to do with the Crusaders and like wheat bakes, I think, or some kind of breakfast cereal. And a few of them did it. And they had to kind of, I think they were just looking for like local students, probably about five years old or something to be in the commercial. So they sent a thing home with the parents. And my parents, they were kind of asking like, is it worth doing? And my parents said however much they would get for us doing it. But to put it in perspective, they were like, this is how much this money is. If you do the commercial, you'll be able to buy this many Pokemon 2 packs or this many Pokemon 3 packs. And I was like, got it. Was it worth it in the end? Did you do the commercial? I don't actually think we did it. I know my best friend did it. But for whatever reason, we said no. I think maybe it was on a Saturday or something. No, it's okay. We don't have to work for it. You can buy it for us. It's fine. Yeah, exactly. What is money anyways to me, right? Yeah. But yeah, so we are coming up on about seven minutes left. Is there anything else you're dying to get off your chest about doll collecting? Anything else you wanna get out there to the world? I think, I don't know. I would like to just say, I don't know. I feel like there's a perception that like, people who collect dolls are a little bit weird. They're a little bit, you know, like, what's the word? Like you're in sort of like a restive development and there's still some childhood issues going on there. Which like, yeah. That's true, but also like it's no different than like, you know, someone into sports collecting like Allbacks or Blacks memorabilia or like, you know, like, I don't know, Funko Pops. At least I'm not a Funko Pop collector, god no. Is there a pecking order of doll collectors? There is a little, no. Funko Pops are the green pen of doll collectors. The green pen of doll collectors. The ones who get bullied all the time. Yeah, no, um, yeah, I just, sorry. Yeah, well, no, that's, uh, that is quite a good thing to remember. And it's like, it's so bizarre, the hobbies that people find acceptable and people look down on. Like, why, why do people really care what someone else spends their money on? And also I think at the end of the day, I feel like it's just a natural human thing to like, to collect things. Like another thing is like people who collect records, like. Yeah. Do they even play them? Do they even use them? No, they're fun to have. Like, and I think it's just, it's just what people do. They like the bold things that they like. Collecting is an interesting idea, isn't it? I wish I had something like, I know Dave Bautista, the actor, he collects steel, like lunch boxes. That's his thing that he collects. And I've never had anything that's really, like, really, like grabbed me that I thought, I need to, I need to start collecting these. Who knows, it might hit you one day, Taylor. It might hit you one day. Maybe I need to go. Those Pokemon figurines that you had as a kid, I don't know, you can hit up Tracey and see what they're going for. We still have them somewhere. I've got a little plastic treasure chest at my parents' house that I don't imagine. Maybe. What's that? Maybe find out how much they're worth, because you can make some money, I don't know. I know a lot of them have missing tails and stuff like that. So I think they're in pretty good nick. And we went to the Sunday market, the Rickett and Sunday market. several weeks ago now. Yeah. And because that was my main, when I was a child, the thing we wanted to go to the Sunday market for was bootleg Yu-Gi-Oh cards and also bootleg small Pokemon figurines. Yeah. And I was incredibly disappointed to find that all of the Pokemon figurines look like they've basically been sitting in that same container for the 20 years since we used to collect them. And they're all covered in grime. It was like, and then expensive too. They wanted like $8, $10 or something for them. It was crazy. Yeah, for bootlegs. That's silly, that's silly. But that's another thing with doll collecting. People will sell things that like, are either not worth anything for like, you know, hundreds, like for a very like, you know, expensive price. Or they will undersell. They don't realize that it's valuable. So they sell it for like $5. It's interesting. You were telling me about a... an absolute coup that you could have really had went over on someone but you didn't, you kind of told them the value of what they were trying to sell or something once. Is this, was it you I was talking to or was it someone else? Yeah it probably was. I've come across that quite a few times on TradeMe where it's like, this is like a really rare collectible and you're selling it for like, I don't know, six dollars fifty. I mean I'm not gonna, you know, I'm not gonna tell you because it's a bargain and I want to take advantage. I'm still gonna click buy now. But at the same time I don't want to take advantage. I feel bad. Yeah you- What is the expression? There's no honor among thieves, I guess, right? If people are willing to sell it for that much, then yeah, that's definitely, that's definitely a bit of a moral. But you got to game the system. You got to game the system. You got to, you know. Yeah. Well, that's the first thing you do when you find an old collectible, is you find out how much it's worth. Like if they haven't even just Googled it, then they kind of deserve to get taken for a ride. Yeah. That's true. That's true. And it's a cutthroat game. It's a cutthroat market. It's every man for themselves. You know, or you just, you know, I mean, I'm not saying that the dog collection community is like, you know, mean and, you know, but at the same time, you've got to be ruthless sometimes. You've got to be ruthless. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. You've got to do what you've got to do. I've been in many a bidding war. Like that victory, I haven't bid on things on trading for a long time, but that victory of when the person finally backs off is a very sweet moment of victory, isn't it? Right, but then I also feel kind of bad where I'm like. Do I actually want this? Should I have let them have it? Oh, I could have just done like the kid's birthday present. Did I ruin a child's birthday party? What have I done? You just judge you just judge what their username is. If the username makes you think they might be kind of like, you know, like a bit of a dick or something, you're like, I don't know about it. So this person could be a Nazi. You never know. Yeah, exactly. All the swastikas in there and their name should have been a tip off for that. What a weird note to end the podcast on. Oh, sorry. No, that was me who, I don't know why I brought Nazis into this. Well, this has been an absolutely delightful podcast. I appreciate you joining me. I'll plug all your social and stuff in the end of the podcast as well as your, give us a quick, a two, one minute plug for your podcast. Ah, yes. So, um, me and my, um, comedian friend, Matt Lilly have a podcast. It's called Playtime with, uh, Georgia and Matt. Um, so yeah, go check it out. It's on Spotify. It's on YouTube. We just, you know, we just have little chat, just silly little chats. Um, so yeah, it's a good time. Check it out. Couldn't have said it better myself. I just flubbed that last one. Thank you for joining me, Georgia. No, thank you. We'll catch you next time. Bye. And we are back. I hope you enjoyed that interview. It was a long time coming. I've been trying to queue that up with Georgia for a while. We just couldn't get our schedules to kind of align, but I'm very, I was very happy to, to make that happen. If you would like more Georgia in your life, you can find her on Facebook. I don't know if her page has an act tag, but just search Georgia West Cahill the comedian, and you should find that without an issue. And then you can find her on Instagram at, I believe it's Georgia WC the girl. I'll chuck all of her links in the show notes so you can find that much easier. Georgia and another local comedian, Matt Lilly, I think she mentioned it in the interview, it's been a couple of weeks since I recorded it but she might have mentioned that her and Matt Lilly have a podcast together called Playtime with Georgia and Matt, which I'll also chuck a link to in the show notes. You can also see it, if you're on my Buzzsprout page, you can see it in my recommendations tab. I've listened to most of the episodes. It's a very enjoyable little podcast. Those two clearly have a very good level of chemistry. Some of their banter is very funny and it's the sort of thing you don't get as often with a show like what I do, where quite often I'm not super close with the guests. So if you're looking for a very cozy sort of podcast with two people that have a lot of chemistry together, I recommend you check that out. There's also some just... cool stories and funny bits and yeah, I have to give it up for any of the local comedians that actually put themselves out there and start a project that's not just kind of signing up for the open mics every week. So all the respect in the world for getting after it and doing something to get noticed. As always follow Can Do Comedy on Facebook to see what kind of fun gigs we've got coming up in 2023. I think at this point I can announce that we're going to be doing a Tuesday night show at the Austin Club so the laugh seller will now be on Tuesdays and Thursdays. The official announcement hasn't gone up yet but it's all but confirmed. We just got to I think figure out the first date. They're more or less going to be the same show. The Tuesday night show. It's going to be more of a comedy buffet with more comedians doing shorter sets. That's good for a kind of a night out if you have some friends or you just want like a bit of a little bit of everything. It's going to be a good, good kind of mix of performers. And in Thursday nights, we are turning it into a bit more of an intimate show where you have less performers. We're going to have four performers plus the MC. They're all going to do slightly longer of a performance, 15 minutes kind of length. So you get to spend a bit more time with them. And it's just kind of more of a. more of an intimate experience. Like if you're into the art form of comedy, then Thursday night will be the night to come along as it'll be getting kind of experimental and trying things out and it's all gonna be in the room and interactive and it's just gonna be a lot of fun. It's a very cozy kind of lounge vibe. All of my social medias at Taylor Riddle Comedy, you already know this if you're listening to the show, give me a review on Spotify or Apple podcasts to help me kind of... climb the ranking, my podcast seems to be charting relatively legitimately this time, seemed to float somewhere between like a hundred and two fifty depending on the week, so yeah any reviews you can toss my way will help me a lot, get me into a more stable position in the charts. So like I think I said the laugh salad was finished last night for the year, we're coming back on the 11th of January which I think the same week we'll be launching the Tuesday show but just keep an eye on the page for details. The Moi quiz and the Brighties quiz, they're gonna be continuing all through the new year. So if you're regular attendees of those, just keep coming along, I'll be there. Chris will be looking after the Brighties quiz. I think I'm looking at after, I'm looking after it on like the second, or there might be Henry. I'm not entirely sure who's looking after that, but somebody will be there on the second. I'm also gonna be on Compass FM. I'm gonna do my first kind of proper shifts there over the new years. I think while they're a bit quieter, they're letting us kind of volunteers. stretch our legs a little bit so I'm going to be on Compass FM from 10am till 2pm on the 29th of December and the 5th of January so if you're in North Canterbury and you're listening and you would like to spend a few hours with me over the sort of New Years, tune in to Compass FM on those days and I will be spinning some records and attempting to say something interesting in between. Next week I'm going to miss my Monday upload. but that is because it is Christmas day on a Monday and I don't expect many people will be sitting around waiting for the next episode to write on me this. So the release is gonna be on the 27th and that is gonna be my state of the ramble for 2023. It's only gonna be about 20 minutes. I'm gonna try my best to keep it short and sweet because I recorded one of those from text and man, it was long. It was a slog for me to record. read through all that so I'm gonna I'm gonna try and keep it about 10 minutes definitely less than 20 for um for the 2023 review so check back on the 27th uh that'll be when that one drops and then the week after the first of January new year's day I am going to release a Q&A episode which is I've been collating questions from uh listeners friends and enemies alike uh people have been asking questions and hurling abuse my way think you can visit www.tayloruddle.com slash questions if you want to leave a question that I'll answer in the Q&A episode. I will also be posting that on my Facebook page as well so just keep an eye out for that if you want to leave a question or hurl some abuse my way. Well that's all for this week I really appreciate you tuning in I hope you're having a wonderful kind of end of year I know the end of year can be a lonely and isolating time for a lot of people so if you're kind of in my circles and you're feeling a little bit isolated, send me a DM and be more than willing to have a chat or, you know, catch up for a drink, something like that. If we don't know each other, then, you know, give it a try, why not? It's always nice to meet new people, I guess. I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm just waffling on now. I gotta get going. I'm gonna go do a Christmas quiz. for a little company celebrating their Christmas end of year function through G Quiz. So once I wrap this up, I'm going to get ready and go and do that. So thank you again for listening. I'll catch up with you next week. I think by the time that has happened, you will have had your Christmas. So I hope you have a lovely Christmas and look forward to all the exciting things in 2024. So all right, take care and we'll talk to you soon. Ruddler out.